I dunno, Ten's overriding characteristic to me seems to be emotional inaccessibility (and dickitude). Honestly, I wouldn't wish him on anybody! I'm looking forward to Donna slapping some sense into him. Possibly literally.
Tennant and Tate like each other a great deal, so that should help with the chemistry. Although Tennant and Piper liked each other a great deal, and....erm. Okay. Maybe that's not a guarantee.
Well, how much of the problems w/Ten can be attributed to the writing? I hear rumblings all the time about that, but I have no idea if they are just trying to justify problems in the characterization of Ten.
I think it's a combination of the two that manage to amplify each other in quite a distasteful way. Ten is written as a cheerful cheeky chappie, and Tennant plays him with, to me, insufferable smugness. Ten is written as emotionally unavailable, and Tennant has always struck me as an actor who is underpowered and more concerned with how he comes off than actually portraying the character (see Casanova; also, in comparison, see Eccleston in the behind-the-scenes of Dalek declining to reshoot a scene just because he's been spitting: "The Doctor should be ugly there.") Etc. I would really like to stop ignoring the elephant in the room and suggest that Tennant is so popular because he has a look that's in fashion right now.
You something weird? I really wish the look appealed to me. I really do. He so does not do it for me it's actually kind of weird, because I feel very much out of step with the fandom. People keep saying he looks good and I can't *see* it, not even if I squint.
He so does not do it for me it's actually kind of weird, because I feel very much out of step with the fandom.
Well, he's certainly not my type, either - although there are a couple of people in his "look genre" that I do find very attractive, namely Jarvis Cocker and Adrien Brody. However, both of them are exceptionally talented and have something else going for them, and to be honest, with Brody, it's always, "I can't wait until he's 40."
I really tend to be swayed by charisma/personality/talent - I remember watching Out of Africa and wondering why Meryl Streep was mooning over Robert Redford when Klaus Maria Brandauer was soooooo sexy (and frankly, I was way too young to be thinking of him that way!). And I have to admit, the SPN guys don't do a thing for me, so the amount of panting does make me think, "Quoi?" I understand why people may not think Christopher Eccleston is attractive; I just think they're not paying attention to anything but physiognomy (even then, eyes? cheekbones?). And there are plenty of older/craggy guys that I much prefer to the pretty boys. But Tennant does have that rat-faced look that's really not one I find attractive. Plus his exaggerated, inauthentic facial expressions tend to highlight his underslung jaw, his slightly crossed eyes, and his pointy nose.
Short version: I might think Tennant was cute if I liked his acting/character.
Well, in SPN you can at least see that the guys are pretty (also pretty damn young - I miss lusting after John and Rodney or Don Eppes), and maybe with DT I'm not seeing him at his best... ah, anyway, I thought Klaus Maria Brandauer was more appealing, yes, although the VD his character gives Meryl Streep's sort of killed that in the movie ;)
in SPN you can at least see that the guys are pretty
Weeeeellll.... JA is. I actually think JP is extremely unattractive, but part of that is also the youth, which, yes, is not a strong point for me. Even when I was eleven (my first memory of thoughts like that), I liked men. David Krumholtz is a weird one because he always struck me as being such an old soul, even when he was 13-14 - not that I thought of him that way then! But Bernard is like a 15-year-old Walter Matthau, which is a trip. He's definitely one that the better he's acting, the more attractive he becomes, hence, S1 being his most attractive, no matter what his weight; I've never quite been able to shake Rob Morrow's Northern Exposure-era wankiness to respond to him that way.
DT is probably at his best-looking in Casanova, although I still find him irritatingly adolescent both physically and emotionally. I can't think he's going to age well.
although the VD his character gives Meryl Streep's sort of killed that in the movie ;)
Details, details ;-) Yeah, that was unpleasant. But fairly common in that day and age, alas.
Oh, you infidel! You say something against JP's looks! *giggles* Seriously, I totally GET THAT! I have these arguments with a friend of mine where she keeps saying that his face and forehead is weirdly unappealing. I have to defend JP's looks! OMG! Hmmm... let's say that he can look good in some shots, not as pretty as Jensen, but very few guys can look like Jensen, who is his teen pictures looks like a freakin Barbie doll. I mean, seriously, it's kind of disturbing.
RM's wankiness... I heard of it and tried to ignore it. Even the whiffs I got were enough to make me look away in embarrassment at the public asshattery, which is so unappealing.
Oh, coming back at JP's looks. I have to say, I have a VERY strong attraction to very tall men. It's - um - a thing I have. I'm not that tall, 1.72m, but in Mexico that was considered freakishly tall and tall men where sort of a rarity. So, yeah, tall men do it for me because they were so rare in RL :)
I have these arguments with a friend of mine where she keeps saying that his face and forehead is weirdly unappealing.
OMG, that's exactly it! To me, he looks like a baby (remember that other discussion?), and it's in partially because his forehead seems to be squished down around his little pea of a nose (I have the same problem with Peter MacNicol). Yeah, it's clearly an aesthetic choice for me - I tend to like high foreheads, high cheekbones, big eyes, long noses, and full mouths, and he's pretty much the opposite of all that. But I get the tall thing, too - I'm really short, just barely over five feet, so anyone is taller than me, and there are some small men who I think are beautiful (more RL than media-wise, because tiny guys rarely make it in commercial contexts). But Eccleston's long legs? Yeah.
There's an anthropological theory that people tend to go for either people who look very much like them (endogamous drive), or who are very different (exogamous), and I'm something like 98% exogamous in my tastes.
Jensen is very pretty, but more attractive now to me, because girly doesn't do it for me ;-)
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Tennant and Tate like each other a great deal, so that should help with the chemistry. Although Tennant and Piper liked each other a great deal, and....erm. Okay. Maybe that's not a guarantee.
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Well, he's certainly not my type, either - although there are a couple of people in his "look genre" that I do find very attractive, namely Jarvis Cocker and Adrien Brody. However, both of them are exceptionally talented and have something else going for them, and to be honest, with Brody, it's always, "I can't wait until he's 40."
I really tend to be swayed by charisma/personality/talent - I remember watching Out of Africa and wondering why Meryl Streep was mooning over Robert Redford when Klaus Maria Brandauer was soooooo sexy (and frankly, I was way too young to be thinking of him that way!). And I have to admit, the SPN guys don't do a thing for me, so the amount of panting does make me think, "Quoi?" I understand why people may not think Christopher Eccleston is attractive; I just think they're not paying attention to anything but physiognomy (even then, eyes? cheekbones?). And there are plenty of older/craggy guys that I much prefer to the pretty boys. But Tennant does have that rat-faced look that's really not one I find attractive. Plus his exaggerated, inauthentic facial expressions tend to highlight his underslung jaw, his slightly crossed eyes, and his pointy nose.
Short version: I might think Tennant was cute if I liked his acting/character.
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Weeeeellll.... JA is. I actually think JP is extremely unattractive, but part of that is also the youth, which, yes, is not a strong point for me. Even when I was eleven (my first memory of thoughts like that), I liked men. David Krumholtz is a weird one because he always struck me as being such an old soul, even when he was 13-14 - not that I thought of him that way then! But Bernard is like a 15-year-old Walter Matthau, which is a trip. He's definitely one that the better he's acting, the more attractive he becomes, hence, S1 being his most attractive, no matter what his weight; I've never quite been able to shake Rob Morrow's Northern Exposure-era wankiness to respond to him that way.
DT is probably at his best-looking in Casanova, although I still find him irritatingly adolescent both physically and emotionally. I can't think he's going to age well.
although the VD his character gives Meryl Streep's sort of killed that in the movie ;)
Details, details ;-) Yeah, that was unpleasant. But fairly common in that day and age, alas.
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*giggles*
Seriously, I totally GET THAT! I have these arguments with a friend of mine where she keeps saying that his face and forehead is weirdly unappealing. I have to defend JP's looks! OMG! Hmmm... let's say that he can look good in some shots, not as pretty as Jensen, but very few guys can look like Jensen, who is his teen pictures looks like a freakin Barbie doll. I mean, seriously, it's kind of disturbing.
RM's wankiness... I heard of it and tried to ignore it. Even the whiffs I got were enough to make me look away in embarrassment at the public asshattery, which is so unappealing.
Oh, coming back at JP's looks. I have to say, I have a VERY strong attraction to very tall men. It's - um - a thing I have. I'm not that tall, 1.72m, but in Mexico that was considered freakishly tall and tall men where sort of a rarity. So, yeah, tall men do it for me because they were so rare in RL :)
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OMG, that's exactly it! To me, he looks like a baby (remember that other discussion?), and it's in partially because his forehead seems to be squished down around his little pea of a nose (I have the same problem with Peter MacNicol). Yeah, it's clearly an aesthetic choice for me - I tend to like high foreheads, high cheekbones, big eyes, long noses, and full mouths, and he's pretty much the opposite of all that. But I get the tall thing, too - I'm really short, just barely over five feet, so anyone is taller than me, and there are some small men who I think are beautiful (more RL than media-wise, because tiny guys rarely make it in commercial contexts). But Eccleston's long legs? Yeah.
There's an anthropological theory that people tend to go for either people who look very much like them (endogamous drive), or who are very different (exogamous), and I'm something like 98% exogamous in my tastes.
Jensen is very pretty, but more attractive now to me, because girly doesn't do it for me ;-)